Episode #146: Travel as a Political Act, Shifting the Safety Narrative, and Founding “Wanderful” to Help All Women Travel the World with Beth Santos

Episode Summary

Beth Santos takes us on her journey growing up in the U.S., studying abroad in Portugal, re-connecting with her heritage, and then moving to the West African island-nation of Sao Tome and Principe at age 22. She reflects on her work in the non-profit sector, her experiences in Sao Tome, as well as her subsequent travels to Brazil and other places around the world, and how it all contributed to the development of her social and political consciousness.  Beth talks about the importance of reconsidering dominant narratives around “travel safety”, especially for solo female travelers, and explains how travel safety rankings and warnings are often overly-broad and tend to homogenize entire countries.  She also explains how “travel safety” discussions are frequently laden with the race, class, culture and identity bias of the person writing the article, or being interviewed for it, and that such rankings are often limited to considering the safety concerns of only certain groups of people and not others.  Beth then goes on to explain the importance of understanding travel as a political act, and how to be a more thoughtful and socially conscious traveler.  Next, she explains the origins of her company, Wanderful, and how it aims to help all women and gender-diverse people travel the world.  Beth talks about her choice to build a diverse team, and to center intersectional anti-oppression politics into Wanderful’s community-building, empowerment of content creators, and advocacy within the travel industry.  And, finally, Beth opens up about her own entrepreneurial journey as a mother with two kids, and gives tips on how to run multiple businesses as a “Start Up Mama”.  FULL SHOW NOTES AVAILABLE AT: www.TheMaverickShow.com

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What You'll Learn
  • How and Why the Narrative on “Travel Safety” needs to by Reconsidered
  • The Importance of Understanding Travel as a Political Act
  • How “Wanderful” Helps ALL Women Travel the World
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[4:49] How Beth developed her political consciousness through travel

[8:57] How Beth’s study abroad experience in Portugal changed her entire life

[13:50] Beth and Matt discuss their experiences in Brazil

[19:04] Beth shares her experience in Sao Tome and Principe

[25:17] The origins of “Wanderful” in Sao Tome and Principe

[27:20] Reconsidering dominant narratives on travel safety

[35:25] Reviewing the State Department’s Travel Warning about Nigeria

[40:14] How Wanderful empowers women with nuanced, contextual approaches to travel safety

[43:33] Understanding travel as a political act

[52:03] How to be a more thoughtful and socially conscious traveler

[55:19] Reflections on the “white savior complex”

[59:26] Founding “Wanderful” to help all women travel the world

[1:02:40] Beth’s entrepreneurial strategies and tips for “Start Up Mamas”

[1:08:28] What travel means to Beth

[1:10:59] The Lightning Round

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  • #1 Piece of Advice Beth would give to her 18-year-old-self
  • Top 3 favorite travel destinations
  • Top 3 bucket list destinations

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Beth Santos

Beth Santos is the founder and CEO of Wanderful, a global lifestyle brand and inclusive community of thousands of travelers and travel content creators. Wanderful reaches over 45,000 women each year through a thriving online membership network, local chapter events in 50 cities, global summits and small group trips. In 2014, Wanderful launched the “Women in Travel Summit”, a leading event for women and gender diverse travel creators to use their voices to champion change in the travel industry. Wanderful is also the creator of the “Moving Forward Anti-Racism Town Hall for the Travel Industry”, as well as the first “Anti-Oppression Toolkit for Travel + Culture Creators.”  Wanderful is also the creator of the annual Bessie Awards to honor women of impact in travel, and the creator of Wanderfest—the first major outdoor festival for women travelers.  Beth was named one of 17 changemakers shaping the future of the travel industry by Business Insider, and recognized as one of the top 100 travel blogger in the USA by the Obama Administration. When she’s not traveling she maintains a home base in Boston with her husband and two daughters.

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